Roth or Traditional: Which is better?

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Demystifying the question and clearing up a logical fallacy so common even experts get it wrong!

It's one of the most common questions I receive as a financial advisor, which is better: Roth or Traditional? Sometimes it arises regarding an annual IRA contribution. Other times, ongoing 401(k) contributions or a potential Roth conversion.

My answer is the same each time, it depends. It's not that I mean to beat around the bush per-se, there is at least one very important assumption that will determine which may be better and it can vary from year to year.

Critical Assumption:

Do you assume that your marginal income tax rate will be higher today or in the future when you withdraw, by choice or not, the considered dollar from the account?

Vocabulary

Use as needed for reference or skip below.

Qualified Account

For our purposes a qualified account refers to Qualified Retirement Plan (or substantially similar structure) as outlined by the IRS. This include employer sponsored retirement plans like:

  • 401(k) - For Profit Companies

  • 403(b) - Not For Profit Companies

  • 457(b) - Government or Not For Profit Companies (Technically not a Qualified Retirement Plan, but follows 95% of the same IRS rules) *Our analysis below holds true for these account structures.

  • SEP - Simplified Employee Pension

  • SIMPLE - Savings Incentive Match PLan for Employees

and Individual Retirement Accounts (IRAs)

Any qualified account will fall under one of two registrations: Traditional or Roth.

Traditional

A traditional registration refers to a progression of pre-tax — tax-deferred — taxable

Contributions are tax-deductible (pre-tax) — gains (appreciation, dividends, and interest) are not taxed when incurred (tax-deferred) — withdraws from the account count as taxable income (taxable).

Roth

A Roth registration refers to a progression of post-tax — tax-deferred — tax-free

Contributions are not tax-deductible (post-tax) — gains (appreciation, dividends, and interest) are not taxed when incurred (tax-deferred) — withdraws from the account are not taxed (tax-free)

*With a 5 year holding period requirement, otherwise withdraws may be considered non-qualified (subject to taxes and penalties).

Non-Qualified Account

Simply put, a non-qualified account is simply any account that is not an above mentioned Qualified Retirement Plan.

Your checking account at the bank is non-qualified. Specifically, it’s a non-qualified individual checking account.

Or if you’re married it’s a non-qualified joint tenants with rights of survivorship (or … tenants in common) depending on your state and preferences.

Taxable

When referring to a taxable account we mean non-qualified account registrations that do not have any added layers of tax-deferral/shelter based on the chosen account type.

Tax-Deferred

In 1913 insurance companies and the the National Association of Life Underwriters lobbied for the exemption from income tax on annuity and life insurance proceeds during the drafting of the 16th amendment. Although it has changed over the years, it gives us the unique account type of annuities (technically insurance contracts).

These account types are the only ones to receive a tax-deferred benefit (The middle of our three part progression shown above for qualified accounts) regardless of their qualification.

In other words, a non-qualified annuity contract is post-tax — tax-deferred —taxable (growth only)

and a qualified annuity contract can be either Roth or traditional and follows that respective tax progression.

Account Registrations

Describes ownership and qualified status. Examples below

  • Individual

  • Individual TOD (Transfer on Death - beneficiary designation for non-qualified accounts, very helpful)

  • IRA (Traditional implied unless otherwise stated)

  • Rollover IRA

  • Joint With Rights of Survivorship (WROS)

  • Joint - Tenants in Common

  • Non-incorporated organization

  • Incorporated organization

  • Custodial/ Guardian

  • UGMA/UTMA

  • 529 College Savings Plan

Account Type

Largely determined by the type of financial institution you do business with. Although, large institutions have made it easier to house all account types under one roof.

Banks & Credit Unions

  • Checking Account

  • Savings Account

  • Money Market Account

  • Certificates of Deposit (CDs)

Broker/Dealers

  • Brokerage Accounts

Insurance Companies

  • Fixed Annuity

  • Indexed Annuity

  • Variable Annuity

Mutual Fund Family

  • Direct Mutual Funds

Wirehouses

(Large institutions referenced above, Merrill Lynch/Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Morgan Stanley etc.)

  • All account types through approved partner companies

Marginal Income Tax Rate

The top tax rate that you pay in any given filing year. We may shorten this to “tax rate” and use this to refer also to short-term capital gains tax rate.

Capital Gains Tax Rate

A reduced tax rate applied to the appreciation of assets owned for more than 1 year.

Required Minimum Distribution RMD

An amount, set by IRS guidelines based on your age and account value, that must be withdrawn each year after reaching a certain age, currently 73 if born 1960 or later.

Disclosure

The following information is not intended to be tax, legal, or investment advice. Please consult your team of professionals before making any tax, legal, or investment decisions.

Informing your assumption:

Regulatory Events

TCJA Sunset - The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 is scheduled to sunset in 2025, which would revert taxes to pre 2018 levels; an increase in marginal income tax rates across the board.

Future Legislation - Increases or decreases in tax rates may be enacted in the future. This could occur at any time but is more likely when there is a significant change of leadership in government.

Marriage, Death, & Divorce

These events impact your marginal tax rate, even if only temporarily. Consider if your spouse were to pass away and your filing status is now single, how would your tax rate change? What if both you and your spouse pass away before distributing your IRA, what terminal tax rate might your potentially employed child pay on required minimum distributions?

Employment/ Self-Employment/Gig Income - Now and Later

How much do you expect to earn in future years including during partial retirement?

A rough timeline can go a long way here, outlining your expectations of earned income over time.

Required Minimum Distributions RMDs from Traditional Qualified Accounts

Once you reach a certain age, the IRS requires you to begin taking RMDs from your Traditional retirement accounts, currently 75 for those born after 1960.

These dollars are added to your total income and can increase your marginal tax bracket. This can be mitigated through several strategies such as donating the annual RMD to a 501(c)3 non-profit organization or donor advised fund.

Other Income

Any other income that may increase your marginal tax bracket should be considered. This includes any inherited IRAs and real estate income. It can also include short-term capital gains, interest, and dividends if they are from a taxable account.

Roth Conversions

Deductible contributions (most except high earners receive a deduction for making contributions to a traditional qualified account) made to a Traditional qualified account and the account's earnings are added to your taxable income in the year that they are converted to Roth.

Backdoor Roth

Non-deductible contributions to a Traditional qualified account are not added to your taxable income in the year that they are converted since the dollars were already taxed hence "non-deductible." However, earnings are taxable when converted. It's common practice to make a non deductible contribution and convert it immediately to avoid any earnings.

Beware the Pro-rata rule

Loving referred to as "The Stupid Tax", not because taxes are stupid, but because paying this tax is likely the result of a "stupid" mistake. To make a long story short, in most cases you should ensure that all of your deductible IRA assets are converted before you start making non-deductible contributions to an IRA if you don't plan to convert the entire IRA balance in a single year.

Otherwise, your converted assets are treated as if they were converted pro-rata to the blend of non-deductible contributions and pre-tax money (deductible contributions + earnings) in ALL of your IRAs. The IRS does NOT let you specify which Traditional IRA dollars you are converting and which are remaining. They assume it is pro-rata every time. In some cases this can be unanticipated, costly, and increase your overall tax bracket.

Case Studies

The good news is that even if you didn't understand a single bit of the above considerations, we are going to work through the only three possibilities:

Your marginal tax rate

1. Stays the same,

2. Increases; or

3. Decrease

from the year you contribute/convert to when you withdraw, by choice or not, from the account.

For each example we are going to look at the beginning and ending value pre-tax and post-tax for Roth, Traditional, taxable, and non-qualified tax deferred registrations.

Since contribution limits are set by account registration (401(k), IRA, SIMPLE) we will use a consistent figure of $10,000

We assume an 8% annual rate of return and a holding period of 10 years.

#1 Marginal Tax Rate Stays the Same

In summary, assuming a consistent marginal tax rate, there is a significant benefit to investing money in a qualified account (Traditional or Roth) over a non-qualified account (taxable or tax-deferred). However, whether the funds are placed in Traditional or Roth has no greater impact than the other from this perspective.

Logical Fallacy #1

It is here that we must pause and point out a logical fallacy that trips up even experienced professionals. In the above example we show a contribution of $10,000 to the Traditional account and only $7,600 to all other accounts. This is because we assume that the Traditional contribution is made with pre-tax dollars and all others are made with post-tax dollars.

Pre-tax dollars minus taxes paid equals post-tax dollars.

$10,000 - $2,400 (24% x $10,000) = $7,600

Where the contribution dollars come from matters, even if only slightly, but it's impact may be de minimis on the overall decision making process. See below.

If you frame the question like this:

"I have $10,000 in my pocket/bank account and want to make a contribution, which is better?"

You may fall victim to thinking or be lead to think of the problem this way:

Did you notice that the opportunity cost of choosing a Traditional registration is equal to the current tax rate, 24%?

The problem with this logic is:

If the money you are contributing is in your pocket/bank account (post-tax) then by making a contribution you are owed a tax-refund of $2,400 assuming your taxes are even otherwise; no money is owed to you or the IRS upon filing.

Consider your paycheck

You have a $10,000 paycheck this year. You tell your employer to defer 100% of it to your 401(k). If you do traditional, you pay no income tax. If you do Roth, there is nothing for the employer to withhold on your behalf from your paycheck and you will get a bill for $2,400 from the IRS.

This fallacy is essentially giving the Roth a blanket "head-start"

In the case of IRAs the Roth does not have to wait to receive a refund and potentially reinvest it at a later date;

and with employer sponsored plans the impact on your paycheck and tax bill are often not fairly considered by investors and professionals alike.

At first glance, contributing the tax-return to a Traditional IRA changes our scenario like this:

One could stop here and conclude that if you keep everything else consistent, the Roth is better than the Traditional by over 5%.

Note that we assume the $2,400 is reinvested promptly upon being returned and ignore the days-week(s) long gap between filing and receiving a return.

Logical Fallacy #2

By stopping here you would be following victim to the second logical fallacy, which ignores two things:

  1. The tax-deductibility of the refunded $2,400 re-contributed to the Traditional account in the new tax year; and

  2. The time-value of money: the future tax refunds are not invested for the same amount of time.

The tax-deductibility of the refunded money re-invested creates a feedback loop with diminishing positive impact to the investor. In other words, the first $10,000 is invested longer than the re-invested $2,400 refund (although maybe by only a few days), which is deductible and creates a $576 refund that is invested for less time, which is deductible and creates a $138.24 refund that is invested for less time... you get the point. Each refund is invested for a different period of time due to annual tax filing and since tax-refunds are issued in post-tax dollars, each reinvestment of the refund creates a refund due next year.

This scenario assumed that the $2,400 refund loop can be contributed in subsequent years for a deduction due to not maxing out all possible deductible Traditional contributions.

We will review later what happens if you are hitting the max each year and therefore the $2,400 cannot be reinvested in a Traditional account for a deduction.

First let's observe the impact of reinvesting the refund that you receive for contributing post-tax dollars to a Traditional (pre-tax) account.

By adding up these future values we can get a better comparison across the board at a single point in time.

Okay so Roth wins here, but barely. It's certainly not the 24% margin shown earlier, or even the 5.76% margin. The 0.55% difference is only attributable to the time value of money problem which arises by waiting a year for each refund before reinvesting.

That problem does NOT exist when pre-tax dollars are put directly into a Traditional account, which is why Employer Sponsored Plans like 401(k)s and 403(b)s do not have this issue.

Only account structures which permit post-tax dollars to be contributed to a pre-tax (Traditional) account (for deduction) have this issue. Eg. IRAs

In essence, it is the process of taxing-refunding-reinvesting that creates a performance lag for the Traditional IRA vs Roth IRA when making contributions with post-tax dollars due to the time value of money.

Note that reinvestment of the earlier years' refunds are much more important than later years.

Full Circle

Wait! What if you made a one time contribution equal to the sum of the initially invested AND future reinvested tax return dollars, $13,158 to a Traditional account with pre-tax money?

We have arrived back to square one. This chart is the same as the first we reviewed except it has a different starting contribution. The result is the same, no greater benefit to Roth or Traditional. See below reference.

Hitting the Maximum?

Before we move on to the second case study, I promised we would review the circumstance where your tax refund cannot be reinvested in a Traditional account. This may happen if you are contributing ongoing to your IRA and reach the max each year or if your income changes and the aforementioned tax return is non-deductible.

In this case, we simply assume that the first year's tax refund is reinvested in the next-best alternative. For our purposes, a tax-deferred account structure. Eg. Annuity contract

We observe that in cases where an individual is making deductible contributions with post tax dollars to a Traditional (pre-tax) account and are not able to reinvest the tax-refund in a Traditional IRA, for a deduction is marginally better served in a Roth registered account.

This is not because of the time-value of money or feedback look discussed earlier, but simply because a non-qualified tax-deferred account contribution is not deductible so the loop ends.

You can see how this quickly starts to vary from person to person since differences in lifestyle and future plans impact how much you earn, save, and are eligible to contribute to qualified accounts.

Quick Sidebar - "Next-best Alternative"

You may be thinking, what about HSAs, ABLEs, ESAs and 529s as a next-best alternative?

As with all tax-sheltered account registrations, qualified or not, there is a reason behind the tax break. Qualified and non-qualified retirement plans encourage individuals to plan and save for retirement which reduces stress on government programs like Social Security.

529s and ESAs encourage saving for education which reduces stress on the educational system and promotes higher education.

HSAs encourage saving for health care expense which reduces stress on the healthcare systems including Medicare and Medicaid.

Typically, the more specific the parameters to qualify for the tax break, the greater the tax benefits.

In our analysis, we are reviewing retirement accounts specifically, and while other account registrations accumulate funds that can be spent during retirement or in some cases rolled into retirement accounts, the limit of their scope of use without penalty is the reason for withholding.

This is not to say that these are not excellent account registrations for their intended purposes, in some cases their tax-benefits exceed that of qualified retirement accounts.

Behavior Matters

It would not be right to summarize the findings of the first case study without briefly discussing behavioral finance.

Creating hypotheticals on a spreadsheet for illustrative purposes is one thing, but living it is a whole different beast. Your propensity to follow through with your strategy is just as important as the strategy you choose. Knowing the information and implementing year over year are different.

Ex: Are you likely to immediately contribute and invest your refund or might it end up going to the pizza guy over the next year?

Ex. How important is it to consider your take-home pay when making contributions?

Summary - Study #1 Marginal Tax Rate Stays the Same

In summary, assuming a consistent tax rate, we observe a difference between qualified employer sponsored retirement plans and individual retirement accounts.

In employer sponsored plans, we see no difference between the benefit of using a Roth or Traditional contribution, but see a clear benefit of using qualified plans over non-qualified plans.

In IRAs we acknowledge that, on paper, there may be benefit as high as the tax rate in favor of the Roth over Traditional, which is diminished by any reinvestment strategy of the corresponding tax-return dollars.

Case Study #2 Marginal Tax Rate Increases

In this case study we assume a marginal tax bracket increase of six percent. As one might expect, paying a lower tax rate leads to a better outcome. Roth wins here.

We observe that the opportunity cost of choosing a Traditional over a Roth at present value is equal to the increase in tax rate. We also observe that the future value opportunity cost of such a decision, less the foregone tax-rate, equals the opportunity cost in present value.

I personally found this very intriguing.

Non-Qualified Accounts

We find that non-qualified tax-deferred account structures' opportunity cost increases. This is unavoidable due to the logistics of converting all gains beyond principal investment to fully taxable at the terminal income tax rate rather than taxable at a blend of income tax and long-term capital gains rates which is usually lower.

Review that when tax rates were consistent we saw that a non-qualified tax-deferred account structure had less opportunity cost than a fully taxable account. In other words, we find that the benefit of non-qualified tax deferral can be lost and it can even begin to harm investors in the event their marginal tax rate increases.

Taxable accounts may or may not be impacted negatively by an income tax rate change. Their opportunity cost can remain the same.

Why?

The specific investments that you hold within a non-qualified taxable account determine how you will be taxed.

Ex: 100% non-dividend paying stock portfolio would only be subject to capital gains taxes (If the investments are held for more than one year).

Ex: 100% dividend paying stock portfolio would be subject to both capital gains and income taxes

Ex: 100% interest bearing bond portfolio (bought at par value and held to maturity) would be subject to only income taxes

In reality, most people have a mix of asset classes (equity, fixed income, cash) and investment vehicles (stocks, bonds, funds, etc.)

Annual Tax Drag - Mutual Funds & ETFs

We use annual tax drag to describe the annual performance cost of holding fund investments which have taxable events that roll-up to the investor's tax returns just by holding shares of the fund.

The issue of paying taxes on either capital gains, or dividends/ interest income based on the specific investment type is separate and yet related.

How it works?

Consider a balanced fund of stocks and bonds. The tax drag will be directly related to the management of the underlying investments in the fund and your tax rates.

Management of the fund's investments likely produce short-term capital gains, interest income, and dividends each year within the fund. All of which are passed along to the investor and would be subject to income tax rates.

The fund's investments may also produce long-term capital gains, subject to capital gains tax. Also, if you bought the fund for $100 per share and sold it for $200 per share, that gain is also subject to capital gains taxes if you owned the shares for more than a year.

In essence, a one fund may have less dividend paying companies and expects it's return to come from appreciation in the share price of investments it holds but may have a high annual turnover leading to significant short-term capital gains and tax drag. Another fund may have a large portion of it's annual return derived from the interest income of fixed-income asset with little to no expectation of share price appreciation or long-term capital gains.

The result is the same, the majority of taxes owed from buying, owning, and selling the fund are paid at income tax rates rather than long term capital gains rates.

Real World Application

Let's examine two funds:

VOO Vanguard S&P 500 ETF

DAGVX BNY Mellon Dynamic Value Fund A.

The Vanguard fund has a low annual turnover, less than 3%.

The BNY fund has a turnover greater than 100%, it replaces all of the assets in it's portfolio annually or more frequently.

First we acknowledge a strong correlation between the two funds total return . The Vanguard fund outperforms the BNY fund, but that is not the point here.

The below chart shows the price per share, or Net Asset Value NAV per share of each of the funds.

Whoa! The BNY fund remains relatively flat while the Vanguard fund looks a lot like the prior chart.

This is tax drag and annual turnover at play.

Funds are required to distribute capital gains from the sale of assets to share holders/owners. Since the BNY fund has high turnover and realizes capital gains, those gains are distributed and the price remains more consistent. Since the Vanguard fund has a low turnover rate, it has unrealized long-term capital gains yet to be distributed (until the assets are sold by the fund) and it's price reflects this.

So What?

We asserted above that non-qualified taxable accounts may or may not be negatively impacted due to a change in income tax rates. The above explanation of tax-drag explores the drivers behind this logic.

Most investors will have some negative impact in a non-qualified taxable account from an increase in marginal income tax rate, but the negative impact will not exceed that of a tax-deferred account in this case.

A best practice is to consider keeping any high-turnover or income funds in a tax-sheltered account where this issue does not occur.

Summary - Case Study #2 Marginal Taxes Increase

In summary, assuming an increase in marginal tax rates we find that a Roth account structure outperforms Traditional, taxable, and tax-deferred structures. Specifically, it outperforms Traditional by the difference in income tax rate in today's dollars.

We find that non-qualified tax-deferred structures have the greatest opportunity cost of the account registrations considered.

Lastly, we acknowledge that taxable accounts may or may not be negatively impacted up to, but not exceeding that of non-qualified tax-deferred structures.

Case Study #3 Marginal Taxes Decrease

In this case study we assume a marginal tax bracket decrease of 2% percent. As one might expect, like above, paying a lower tax rate leads to a better outcome. Traditional wins here.

We again observe the relationship between the opportunity cost of choosing a Roth and the change in tax rate. Specifically, we choose a 2% change to highlight yet another consideration that must be made. Discussed below.

Non-qualified accounts

Here we highlight the impact tax-drag has on the opportunity cost. Importantly, we notice that though appropriate tax-managed investing, a taxable account can have a lower opportunity cost than a non-qualified tax-deferred account.

In the above scenario we show a decrease in taxes, but the same remains true assuming a consistent tax rate; controlling tax drag can lead a taxable account to outperform a nonqualified tax-deferred account.

Tax-deferred, where's the love?

Notice that if we assume perfect tax drag management (only long-term capital gains tax is paid) and a decrease in terminal tax rate to 15%, or the same as the capital gains tax rate, we find a breakeven point leading to the benefit of non-qualified tax deferred structures over taxable structures.

This is to highlight that it is a combination of annual tax drag and the change in tax rates that impact the opportunity cost between non-qualified account structures.

Tax-deferred structures benefit from a decrease in marginal tax rate, that benefit may or may not outweigh the opportunity cost of choosing a taxable account as a next best alternative to Traditional.

It is likely best to assume some level of tax drag on taxable accounts as we do in all other examples.

Conservative investors and active strategies benefit more from the power of tax-deferral than do moderate to aggressive passive investors due to the tax-drag concept discussed above.

The risk of being wrong and the reward of being right

In this case study we show a decrease of 2% between the current and terminal tax rate. This should not be overlooked. Tax brackets are not the same width and rates are not evenly spaced.

Therefore, some investors bear greater risk for some making a false assumption about the change their tax rate over time than others.

In other words, being wrong by 6% is worse than being wrong by 2%

Summary - Case Study #3 Marginal Taxes Decrease

In summary, assuming an decrease in marginal tax rates we find that a Traditional account structure outperforms Roth, taxable, and tax-deferred structures. Specifically, it outperforms Roth by the difference in income tax rate in today's dollars.

We find that non-qualified account structures underperform qualified structures, but whether taxable or tax-deferred is better is based on assumptions surrounding tax drag and the depth of any marginal income tax rate decrease.

Conclusion

At first glance the question seems simple, Roth or Traditional? It is one you have likely asked your financial advisor, tax-preparer, or friends. If you are a financial professional it is certainly one that you have fielded from clients.

Approach any blanket answer to it with a healthy dose of skepticism.

After a careful analysis of your financial situation and consideration for your future plans and expectations there may be one option that is better for you than another. However, as we saw above, in some cases there is no greater benefit to one than the other.

Key Takeaways

Frame the Question Fairly

Remember that when considering the question, consider the angle that you are approaching it from. A fallacy here can drastically skew your results.

Behavior Matters

Even the best laid plans go to waste. I had a coach tell me that 10% of your efforts should go into making a decision and 90% should go into making that decision the right one for you. In cases where you could choose either Traditional or Roth, consider whether the reduction of your current after-tax income due to Roth contributions is a behavioral strategy to actually save more pre-tax by preventing you from spending it.

Stay Out of the Weeds

I am all for pinching pennies but consider if the juice is worth the squeeze. Concepts like tax drag and lowering expense ratios are great, but if through paralysis-analysis your money never ends up invested, you may have hurt yourself in the end.

Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst

When making assumptions that impact your finances it is best to review all likely outcomes, consider the ramifications of being right or wrong. Some would not risk a 6% loss for 2% gain and others do it all the time. Clear expectations are key.

Thank you!

For convenience, I have developed a web calculator which allows you to run these scenarios on the fly.

Thanks for reading! Any and all feedback or questions are welcome and appreciated!

Cheers,

David DuCharme

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